Forum	Title	Content	Member	Sex	Country	Date/Time
Middle East and North Africa	Curious MENA question...	QUOTE (julianna @ May 26 2008, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (geenee @ May 26 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Im sorry... Im new but Im curious.... what was the question? I know some people on here are more or less agnostic or atheist. I was curious as to if you sort of keep this to yourselves when you meet your MENA spouse's family, if they know, or if even your spouse knows, and how does the family deal with it. Well personally I would just keep it to yourself when it comes to his family. If they have questions answer as basic as possible. Leave it to your husband to deal with his family. It is his life Choice to be with you so he can handle his family. Muslim men feel very strongly about their religion. Women too but its always good in a relationship to understand each others choice in religion. But I must warn u ... It can turn into a heated discussion	geenee	Female	Jordan	2008-05-26 21:51:00
Middle East and North Africa	Curious MENA question...	QUOTE (Virtual wife @ May 26 2008, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm especially curious about practicing Muslim men marrying agnostic, atheist or secular Christian and Jewish women. They don't catch heck like Muslim women who marry Christian or Jewish men do, and rarely are called out to justify it. In the Muslim culture it is believed that the man is the decision maker on the childrens religion. This is why is it ok for men to marry out of his religion but it is harder to accept from women being ... it is believed that the man is the decision maker in the childs religion This is why they discourage woman from marrying out of their religion	geenee	Female	Jordan	2008-05-26 21:46:00
Middle East and North Africa	Curious MENA question...	Im sorry... Im new but Im curious.... what was the question?	geenee	Female	Jordan	2008-05-26 21:42:00
Middle East and North Africa	saturday	Any news on Nawal yet either? [/quote] Yep... great news!!! babies are here and healthy and so is her honey, she will be home tomorrow.... she is very very happy!!! [/quote] that's great news! thx for sharing. [/quote] No problem.... I will wait until she gets home to share all the details but im happy to share the update. Im so happy for her	geenee	Female	Jordan	2008-05-31 21:19:00
Middle East and North Africa	saturday	QUOTE (Olivia* @ May 31 2008, 02:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (Nawal @ May 28 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Awww...Enjoy your trip Sereia!! Vitamins, zinc and juice are my tools too and rest!! Wish I had a better cure for you!! Be safe and take tons of pictures!!! Happy Wednesday MENA!!! I hope and pray all of you will hear good news in the up coming days/week. Talk to everyone soon....I'm outta here in the morning to meet my babies!!! My last few hours pregnant! Any news on Nawal yet either? Yep... great news!!! babies are here and healthy and so is her honey, she will be home tomorrow.... she is very very happy!!!	geenee	Female	Jordan	2008-05-31 21:07:00
Middle East and North Africa	VISA in HAND :0)	QUOTE (Nawal @ May 27 2008, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So I know I'm the only one up right now...LOL! OMG....I'm so excited...my fiance got his Visa and military permission all in ONE day! I want to pass out!! Yippee, Thank god, I made him show me a million times..."Are u sure its your name, does it have the right dates, is the permission enough??" OMG, he will be here Thursday, inshaAllah!!! From airport to hospital....haha! Congratulations my sweet Nawal!!!! yay!!! babies and hunny comming within the next few days..... God bless you Miss Thang!! Edited by geenee, 27 May 2008 - 03:34 AM.	geenee	Female	Jordan	2008-05-27 03:31:00
Middle East and North Africa	I lost my husband today	So sorry to heard about your loss.	geenee	Female	Jordan	2008-07-29 02:28:00
Middle East and North Africa	Back from Jordan	Welcom Back! I hope you had a nice visit to Jordan. QUOTE (lazylivn @ Aug 21 2007, 07:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi, I"m back safe from Jordan. Been home a little over two weeks. I wasn't able to get married there. The churchs there definately doesn't like the idea of internet relationships. We decided to do the K-1 visa. I mailed it from Jordan when I was there to avoid the fee hike..lol. They cashed my check today...yay!!!! It was so hard for me to come home. To be honest...it was my kids that made it possible to get on the plane. I'm finally getting back to a more normal routine. I promise I will come here and participate more. Thanks to everyone who gave me help. I really appreciate it. Now is the hard part.....waiting.	geenees	Female	Jordan	2007-08-29 00:36:00
Middle East and North Africa	BEST Mother's Day of my life...	Mabrook to Tiffany and Mohammed!!! I am so happy for the both of you. Tiff ur journey ends and mine is just begining. I wish you both peace and love. Mabrook!! Edited by geenees, 17 May 2008 - 09:21 PM.	geenees	Female	Jordan	2008-05-17 21:20:00
Middle East and North Africa	Sunday- It's Superbowl!!	Hello everyone Yeah its Super Bowl Sunday, Our State is going Crazy , I live in Phoenix The Super Bowl Is bringing so many people here it's so cool all the parties , the Stars wow so so cool I am not a big fan of football but i do watch once in a while ,I am banking on the Gaints to win my daughter is for New England we will see , everyone enjoy the super bowl and in our forecast for today we have Rain , wouldn't you know it. have a great day. Carolyn Attached Files  Picture_030.jpg   143.5KB   21 downloads	rct	Not Telling	Morocco	2008-02-03 11:49:00
Middle East and North Africa	WELCOME TO WEDNESDAY!!	Happy Hump Day everyone !!! today is a good day we were touched today I am so happy , hope everyone has a great day! Carolyn Attached Files  Picture_041.jpg   162.49KB   6 downloads	rct	Not Telling	Morocco	2008-02-06 21:33:00
Middle East and North Africa	Morocco Phone Connection	Yes we too have been having the same problem it's not the phone card , because even when I call from my house phone to Morocco , I get a lot of noise and static and the phone card I buy also cuts off all the time and when it connects to the connection is awful, the phone card company told me there is still problems with all the lines and even when my husband gets on line it cuts on and off the whole time this last weekend we had a horrid time trying to talk and see each other because of the bad connection hopefully soon it will be fixed, in the mean time I am off to Morocco to see my Husband !!! I am so so excited I havent seen him for 7 months and that was when we got married, take care. Carolyn	rct	Not Telling	Morocco	2008-02-08 22:56:00
Middle East and North Africa	Yell at me	uH OH! Better add me to the list of people to yell at! The worst part is I work 50ft away from a gym. Ugh but at the end of the day, i just want to go home have dinner and go to bed!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-04-14 23:45:00
Middle East and North Africa	Does this buh anyone else?	Hi Sarah, When I met my husband and he was around his family and friends, he would constantly speak Persian. I understand only Hello and Goodbye lol However, after a time I explained to my husband that I had no idea what they were discussing and would they speak in English. So then anytime his friends came over he would try to speak in only English, yet, he would then apologize and ask if they could speak in Persian, because alot of the words and descriptions they were trying to convey, they couldn't translate in English(Even though they all spoke English fluently). So, maybe that is some of the issue. It always seemed that it would take 2 times as long for them to discuss something in English rather than Persian. I always said it required to much of a thought process for them ha ha ha But he has always been good about it and tried to translate. Usually when they say they are going to speak Persian, I just watch them speak like I understand it all ha ha ha Have you tried speaking with the Uncle and ask that he speak in French? Or maybe that is not an option?	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-04-20 10:52:00
Middle East and North Africa	Admin Processing	That is my sentiment exactly!!! Although she was quite nice so I didn't disagree. But she said that ME and Asian countries put on AP are random, What is random when she lists the 2 biggest sections that get AP???	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-09 13:41:00
Middle East and North Africa	Admin Processing	Thanks jordanianprincess! What a rough road this has been! It took 188 days for our i-130 to complete and now this. I called NVC to ask a couple questions and she said that they don't put people on AP just for being from the Middle East, it is just random. Somehow reading through all of these posts, it doesn't seem that way! I almost seems as if "after 9/11" has become an excuse for everything! If they don't know the answer they say "after 9/11......" Oh dear, sorry I am ranting!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-09 13:35:00
Middle East and North Africa	Admin Processing	Hmm... maybe! That would be a relief if it is just standard protocal. I think I will run around VJ and see if I can find anyone else from Iran/Turkey that have had the same problem. I keep reading where people are in AP for a year. In that case, I will have to move to Iran!!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-09 12:43:00
Middle East and North Africa	Admin Processing	Thanks iceyspots! I am just hoping this goes through quickly. We even waited an extra 2 weeks to get his police clearance from Iran. He isn't affiliated with anyone other than a local gym lol. Other than that I will just have to sit tight and see how long it takes.	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-09 12:22:00
Middle East and North Africa	Admin Processing	Good Morning VJers! I called the NVC this morning to find out the status of our case. I was told by the gentleman Barney that the case was complete as of 5/1, but that we are on Admin. Processing. I thought this usually happened at the consulate level. Anyone else familar with this??	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-09 12:12:00
Middle East and North Africa	Interview date	I just called him and he couldn't stop laughing!! He got so excited!! Then he said I must be "pulling his legs" ha ha ha We expected to wait until July or early August... but in 22 days!! Now we just have to figure out how long he will need to be there. I don't know how long it takes to get the medical results back! I think I am having a panic attack!! Thank goodness for VJers or I may have lost my sanity!!! I simply can not get over that it is only 22 days away!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-15 11:19:00
Middle East and North Africa	Interview date	Thank you, iceyspots and angelk96!!! This week has been a total rollercoaster ride! Although a good one!! I can't believe the interview is so soon!!! Even the guy at NVC was like "wow, that was quick"!! Ugh! I can't get my husband on the phone to tell him ha ha ha	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-15 09:08:00
Middle East and North Africa	Interview date	Just found out our interview is June 6th. 22 days away!! OMG	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-15 09:02:00
Middle East and North Africa	Massouna & Ali's Interview Countdown Thread!!!	Just found some no doze and a bottle of Vodka! So I'm all set!! Too bad I can't pass it around!! Going to go do that happy dance: Oops I knew it was too early to start the red bull!!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-17 15:26:00
Middle East and North Africa	Massouna & Ali's Interview Countdown Thread!!!	Ok! I'm ready! I bought 4 Red Bulls!! That should leave me awake at midnight and twitching ha ha ha Good luck LB!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-17 13:32:00
Middle East and North Africa	Massouna & Ali's Interview Countdown Thread!!!	Yikes! I only have 21 days till the interview, nowhere near enough time to get more originals!!! I will have to email the embassy tomorrow Woohoo!! I will be there!! yeah!! chat time!! Edited by joyeann, 16 May 2006 - 11:36 PM.	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-16 23:35:00
Middle East and North Africa	Massouna & Ali's Interview Countdown Thread!!!	Thanks afia! Hopefully I don't have to send him anything. They have all the originals. I just am going to hope they didn't lose any of them!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-16 22:23:00
Middle East and North Africa	Massouna & Ali's Interview Countdown Thread!!!	Hey LB!! Woohoottt time is drawing close!! I will try to stay up as late as I can, I will see ya online when you post the good news!! Mind if I pop in and ask a quick question? I thought that the originals of the marriage cert, I-864, and police certificates went to the NVC We mailed the originals and they said they would give them back at the interview.... do I need to do them all again???	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-16 21:57:00
Middle East and North Africa	I am pleased to announce, for the first time.....	CONGRATULATIONS Mrs. Kelly A Rashaedeh!!! That is great!! woohoo!!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-05-17 11:30:00
Middle East and North Africa	3 days to go	Thank you all for your support!!! I guess it will be midnight my time not 8pm. I think. Just thinking about it is making me nervous! What a stupid system this is that your fate lies within someone elses hands.	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-02 16:00:00
Middle East and North Africa	3 days to go	HAPPY FRIDAY!! Only 3 days left to go.. and I am terrified!! I should know by monday night what the outcome is. I guess around 9p pacific time. Just thinking about it, I feel a little ill.	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-02 09:22:00
Middle East and North Africa	The day before Friday	Ugh come on Friday and come on DOS!! DOS prayers forthcoming!!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-15 16:17:00
Middle East and North Africa	Fingerprints	So far its been a long journey!! CSC alone took 188 days. This is the last hurdle so I am hoping that it won't take too long..praying with my fingers crossed and knocking on wood, throwing salt over the shoulder, etc I will be 1 year since we started the journey next month ugh	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-16 21:10:00
Middle East and North Africa	Fingerprints	Thanks for the link lal_brandow!! They took only his 2 index fingers. I just hope that he won't have to go back and get a full set done. I would have thought if they needed a full set, they would have done them then. It is just an expensive trip for him to go back to Turkey again. I hope the next time he has to go back, it will be to get his visa and we wait............	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-16 20:46:00
Middle East and North Africa	Fingerprints	Quick question What is the difference if asked for just your index or a full set of fingerprints?	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-16 19:23:00
Middle East and North Africa	just a question	wow roula that seems like an awful long wait for an interview! Have you contacted the embassy? Hopefully someone more familar with that embassy will be on shortly. Good luck!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-16 21:40:00
Middle East and North Africa	A little ticked	amal I think we have all been in the situation that we don't understand something. But you went the next step and put away your fears. Most would not even venture to do that!! I truly believe the difference is that we chose to learn from it, we delve into the truth. Most of the people that I know and call "stupid" is because they choose not to want to learn anything different. Their truth is what they see on TV ~ these are the things that they turn around and pass on. Those of us that have married the "foreigner" have taken the truths to heart. I hardly doubt that a lot of these people would be able to see past the lies and their own prejudices to find the love that we have. I consider us so very lucky that we are the one that have gone "outside the box" and found true love. It is usually a hurdle to overcome the cultural and the religious differences, but well worth it! Some people don't know better, some are simply narrow minded, and some are stupid. Why do I always come across the stupid ones? I wanted to share something I'm not too proud of...Before I met my husband, I was one of those stupid people.. Not to the extremes that most others are..but I was afraid to get to know him and I was also afraid to go visit him coz I didn't want to be "blown-up".. Yeah he's from Jordan and they are allies of the USA but at the time I didn't know it. All I knew was what I saw on tv and heard from the papers and co-workers. It took a long time to get close to him and to actually believe him...BUT the difference between me and the other "stupids" out there is that I did open my mind to a new belief of a culture and a new thought to the way all GOOD ppl of Islam really are. The reason I am admitting this is because ... to address the "stupids" I have to remember myself when I was one of them and how I felt. I try to address their stupidity as my husband addressed mine....I try to explain what I can in the best way possible and pray to God that some of it soaks into their heads. It's so hard though coz man-o-man do I get mad. Especially when they say stuff like.."how can you be married to a man who doesn't worship the same god as you".... it's like..uhh hey...stupid..it's the same god..just different name...HELLOOOOO... I have also said many times that if the media is going to say "muslim group did such and so" then they should say "christian group did this and that" "mormons did this" etc etc etc... they shouldn't single out one religion... they are definitely discriminating and (correct me if i'm wrong) but isn't this country supposed to be free from discrimination??? I have decided that I'm still proud of America BUT am not proud of America today...I'm proud of what America is supposed to be and the dreams we had when this country was built... I don't tell people up front that I'm American when I meet them ... but in my heart I hope this country gets back on track and becomes what it is supposed to be. I know, I know , it will never happen but a girl has to have dreams, right?? amal	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-15 22:09:00
Middle East and North Africa	A little ticked	You know, I am just fed up with all the idiots that are out there. I figure that if they are so ignorant I am not going to belittle myself by even being friendly. If they want to say something stupid, well then I hope they understand they are going to get a stupid reply. So! From now on, they can all just pi$$ off. I personally don't care anymore what anyone says. It just simply blows my mind that people are so stupid. But then again.. the ones that make these comments have never been out of their state much less the country. I guess with that you would expect some narrow mindedness. Yep, it is pity that I feel. Must suck to be so stupid. You know, I am just fed up with all the idiots that are out there. I figure that if they are so ignorant I am not going to belittle myself by even being friendly. If they want to say something stupid, well then I hope they understand they are going to get a stupid reply. So! From now on, they can all just pi$$ off. I personally don't care anymore what anyone says. It just simply blows my mind that people are so stupid. But then again.. the ones that make these comments have never been out of their state much less the country. I guess with that you would expect some narrow mindedness. Yep, it is pity that I feel. Must suck to be so stupid.	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-15 14:48:00
Middle East and North Africa	A little ticked	ahh just_waiting I am sorry to hear that! I don't know whether to be mad at these people or to pity them as I usually do. One day we will look back and see this whole journey from a different perspective ~ for our loved one will be sitting beside us!! I know what you mean about stress!! It is like being on a constant roller coaster! I am tired of stupid people. I have decided that if anyone says anything to me.. well from now on I am going to speak MY MIND.	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-15 11:01:00
Middle East and North Africa	A little ticked	Hi Amal! Good point about the suicide bombers!! Imagine if the US were being invaded and we were all told that we must do this and do that etc with bombs raining down and foreign troops with guns walking through the street..... I can see a bunch of AMERICAN fanatics doing the same thing. Why shouldn't another country's people protest that we are there? There are enough fanatics in the US that would do the same thing!!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-15 10:20:00
Middle East and North Africa	A little ticked	I am so very glad that I am not the only one that feels this way!! Everything on tv starts with "Islamic terroists........" "Muslim terroists........" It is just sickening. The whole reason for it is that they need something to attach to 9/11 and pull the viewers in. Oh yea and everyone is so damn patriotic uh huh. Do you remember when 9/11 happened and you could barely find a car that didn't have some kind of american flag on it? Look now...where did all the flags go? 9/11 has been forgoten and the only thing that has stayed with Americans are the words, Islam and Muslim. If you were to go out on the street and ask someone what country these men came from, they wouldn't know. All they would know is they were from an Islamic country. I am truly tired of stupid people. I brought the holy book in to work so that I can read it on breaks and lunches and a supervisor told me that it gives her "goose bumps". I told her that I was sorry for her ignorance and maybe she should do more than watch CNN. Personally i just wanted to slap the sh$$ out of her, but hey, i need the job. Ok, well I am done venting ~ for now. Thanks for your support!!	joyeann	Not Telling	Iran	2006-06-15 09:29:00